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'Tis so by jones2000 'Tis so by jones2000
What bothers me a bit is hardcore twi-haters use this as a reason Twilight sucks.

Um.

I'm sorry, but since vampires are supposed to be dead (and that's about the only part of the myth that hasn't been changed) doesn't this automatically apply to all other vampires as well?

Well, that's what I think. But even if you use this as a blanket excuse why Twilight is bad, shouldn't you apply it to other fandoms as well?
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UglySwanling Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015  Student Writer
True, they are technically dead, but still there are some versions of vampires where they are more demon-like and just considered "non-human" rather than "undead" but still, while I don't like twilight this is an invalid argument to use against it. 
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Viktorija06 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
YEP
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IluvmeDevilSummoners Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2013
:icontruestoryplz: and twilight still sucks more so
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R-Daemonski Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
What if both are vampires? Technically, they're both dead, right?
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SandMagic Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2011
"Necrophilia, also called thanatophilia or necrolagnia, is the sexual attraction to corpses."
-Wiki

A lot of vampires, canonically, cannot have sex. Thus neatly sidestepping the issue. I am an uncultured swine, so the only example I can come up with off the top of my head is Rice's vampires... Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, a lot of modern takes on vampire lore allow it. Hmm...

At any rate, it depends on whose vampires your talking about!

Do you find it's common for twi-haters to defend other vampire lore in their crusade against the passages of Meyers?
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually I've noticed a lot of haters bring up other vampire 'lore' when hating on Meyer. But they tend to forget that Bram Stroker and others created this lore when they romanticised vampires in their writing.

The vampires of folklore were reanimated corpses. They weren't charming and definitely weren't beautiful. Both sides of the argument forget that.
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Professor-Titsweat Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2011
Indeed, it is!
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Blackfire-Dragon Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
vampires arent dead, theyre undead :P



so itd be unnecrophilia ;P
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paulinaghost Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
THANK YOU! That excuse for peoples to hate it is one of the top stupid I keep hearing. I like it even though is not the best book ever and if your gonna get mad over any book,show,person,or thing ,then you need a way better reason then something you never complained about with before.
nice stamp.
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
YOU'RE WELCOME!

Seriously, Buffy boinked Angel the vampire more or less the moment after she wasn't jailbait anymore, but people still love Buffy/Angel, so...

If you don't like the writing, say you don't like the writing. Don't try to pick holes in something you didn't really notice before. Shall we say double standards?
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paulinaghost Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011
exactly. =)
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mixtapebangstamps Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Student General Artist
Though I don't like Twilight, that had to one of the stupidest reasons for hating on it. After all, necrophilia is wrong because you're doing things with someone who can never give their consent. While some vampires (some, not all; depending on the myth and how you look at it, too) are technically "dead", they're still well-aware and able to consent.

However, I view "undead" not as dead. I don't think any vampires can really be called "dead". Most of them "died" and were "reborn".
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randomgirl1298 Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I also don't like twilight, but most other vampire romance is also pedophillia. That reason irks me too...
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mixtapebangstamps Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2011  Student General Artist
Reason for what? Sorry, a little slow today. You mean to hate vampires in general?
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randomgirl1298 Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
No, I love the Dracula novel, I'm just giving some reasons that anger me that some twilight haters use.
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree. It depends on your definition of a 'vampire'.

I'm not a fan of Twilight, but this stamp was more aimed at twi-haters on how the argument is sort of a moot point. If you use it as a blanket excuse for why Twilight sucks, surely it should be applied to other fandoms too?
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mixtapebangstamps Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Student General Artist
Seriously. Unfortunately, there are people out there who say they hate all vampires, in any book/ movie/ show/ play/ etc, so, they probably wouldn't have a problem with applying it to other fandoms. And that... is a whole other matter of silliness. Disliking a whole supernatural race as a theme for a story? They're just doing it on purpose.
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Maltina Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
I'd say that depends. If a vampire is undead then yes, it could technically be called necrophilia. If the vampire is, however, biologically transformed, then I'd say no.

But I do see your point. :)
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, it does depend on your definition of what a 'vampire' is, but this stamp is more about twi-haters. If you use necrophilia as a blanket excuse for hating Twilight, shouldn't you apply it to other fandoms as well?
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Blackfire-Dragon Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
do twi-haters hate twi-leks too? why? theyre sexy ;)
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Maltina Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011
Oh yes, I agree. :nod:
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limitedtoogirl Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
this is true.
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sugarpoultry Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
I know, people attack Twilight for stuff that has been going on in vampire movies since... like, the beginning. It's rather annoying. Yes, Twilight isn't the greatest representation of vampires, but their excuses to hate it don't make it worse.

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aeon88 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
Isn't that what makes it hot?
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Siriah Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It should, so the argument can only be used if someone hates all vampire romance.
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Gabrych Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
Epic. :heart:
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:bow:
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heart4element Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011
i never use that as a reason to hate twilight.
i use the teenXbaby reason to hate twilight
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
God, I had to re-read that part to see whether I had made a mistake or not.

I didn't.

---> [link]
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Steampixel Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm glad someone agrees with me [link]
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree through and through :nod:

Argh, I've actually got your stamp fav'd and forgot all about it. :blush: It probably gave me the initial idea in the first place.
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Steampixel Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no worries.
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Kazeish-Thoughts Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011  Student Writer
True, true. What disgusts me, however, is that people are so oblivious to this.
Then again, I am a hypocrite: I have said that is one of the main reasons I hate Twilight. But I don't really like any other vampire/human relationship, either.
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jones2000 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I've read Twilight. The books are sitting on the shelf, staring at me. I like the idea put around by Dracula and Anne Rice that vampires occasionally seduce their food, but that's it.

I find the fascination... strange. I personally wouldn't want a partner who died in the 1500's and remembered the Inquisition.
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Kazeish-Thoughts Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2011  Student Writer
Like a fisherman luring a fish in.

Same here. I care about age as well as looks. And whether they're dead or alive.
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EtherealRequiem Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011
Yes, yes it is.
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